Blue Jays 2025 World Series Deep Dive

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Nii Wallace-Bruce: Welcome into another

episode and appreciate you for listening.

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Especially if you subscribe and you

come back often for these episodes,

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it's means a lot, so thank you.

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Recording on November

5th, it's a Wednesday.

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If you're in North

America, you know that the.

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World Series of baseball

concluded on Sunday.

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Game seven.

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Actually started on Saturday,

the 1st of November.

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But because of the nature of the game

that went into extra innings, it actually

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finished on a Sunday, November 2nd.

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Some of us forget that.

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Definitely not if you're in the city

of Los Angeles because the Dodgers,

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they broke the drought and they won

back to back World Series titles.

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First time it's done in 25 years, if

you're in the city of Toronto, of course

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you know that the game finished on a

Sunday because you got an extra hour to

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wallow and think about what happened.

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Because straight after the game was

won and the confetti rained down across

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the skydome, the clocks went back.

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Daylight savings ended.

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So that was an added footnote to

an end of the season, an extra hour

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of thoughts and what may have been

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on the macro side.

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It's great for baseball.

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50 million people officially tuned

in across Japan, the US and Canada.

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Fear is about the Dodgers winning this

World Series and ruining baseball.

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They can be put in the VIN because

the Toronto Blue Jays and the LA

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Dodgers of seven games that saved

baseball, , it's made baseball a truly

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international game that it deserves to be.

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We saw lead changes throughout the series.

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Guess what?

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LA and Toronto share the record

in Major League Baseball for

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the most come from high wins.

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Both teams achieved 54 from

the style of the regular.

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Season two, the end of the World

Series 54 come from Behind Winds for

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both the Blue Jays and the Dodgers.

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Obviously the Dodgers 50 Thor.

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Come from behind.

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Win was the ultimate as they won five four

in extra innings on that Saturday night.

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Now they go off, they've taken

the trophy with them, they've

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gone back to California.

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They've had the parade, and for

them it's how do we do this again?

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Because they're chasing

to: 2000

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They're the last team that has won

the World Series three times in a row.

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And the Dodgers are chasing that team.

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They're chasing Jeter Rivera and

that class because it is so hard to

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repeat as a World Series champion,

and it is extremely hard to repeat

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back to

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Nii Wallace-Bruce: back to back.

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But the judges are gonna try and do that.

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They're going to do.

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Eat in their fashion.

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They don't hide.

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All they do is a front

office with their moves.

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When a free agent becomes available,

a top free agent by the way,

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they reach out, they put their

nice contract offer on the table.

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They show the free agent the

facilities, and they probably wheel

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out show Freddie Freeman Mookie bets.

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Depending on the caliber of free agent,

they might even get all of them in the one

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room and they say, you want some of this?

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They get mooky to put out his hand

and show the four rings that he has.

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One from Boston, which is questionable.

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But anyway, he's got three with LA now,

and he asks, you want some of this?

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You wanna be a part of this?

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And the free agent has their eyes lit up.

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They're enamored.

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If the fridge is Japanese,

it's almost a shoe in nowadays.

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'cause you have Botani rookie Susaki

You Justno Yamamoto, that World II MVP

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for 2025 and the underrated Japanese

connection of Dave Roberts, who was

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part of Dave Roberts is the second black

managed to win back-to-back World Series.

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The first SDO Gaston with

the Toronto Blue Chase.

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And alongside Sdo and Dave

Roberts, you have the great dusty

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baker who is now happily retired.

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But this one, this chat is

gonna be more therapeutic.

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It's gonna be more for the

Toronto side of things.

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'cause we know the Dodgers story,

we know about that success.

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You can go to any mainstream

media site and they will gush

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and praise the Looming Dynasty.

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If it's not already a dynasty,

they'll talk about what the judges

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have done and its greatness.

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This is more for the folks in

Toronto, the followers of the

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Blue Jays who were two out away

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and they were two out away from

getting back to those days of 92 or 93.

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It was Halian hardball days when

baseball was king in this city,

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and for the month of October, 2025.

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Baseball was back to that

rifle place in Toronto.

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You didn't hear a lick

about the May police.

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By all accounts, they're

not doing that great anyway.

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It seems.

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They may have turned a corner inspired

by what the Blue Jays have done in the

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month of October and for part of November,

but base baseball had a choke hold on

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this city and it had a strangle hold on.

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This country and lung may continue.

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Baseball has strong origins in Canada.

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Babe Ruth hit a home run from Tono

Island into Lake Ontario, and if

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you are daring enough to go into

the depths of Lake Ontario, you can

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probably find that home run bowl.

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I myself do not have that

fortitude and I value my health,

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so I'll not be doing that.

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But the point is baseball does have.

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A history in this country, and it

has a history in the city of Toronto.

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So it was so refreshing to see a Blue Jays

team that had started the season coming

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off a 74 and 88 record in 2024, punctuated

by a horrific sweep by the Marlins.

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And to close out a home stand and finish

the season, a bitter taste to be beaten

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by a team that barely gets any fans.

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To be quite honest,

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to come outta that and to go into

spring training the way they did.

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And they won spring training.

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They won the Grapefruit league, they

won the mythical golden grapefruit

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trophy that may or may not exist.

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And then they went into the

season with anticipation, but.

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Absolutely no expectation.

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No one.

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No one in their wildest dreams

expected that Blue Jays team to win

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the a L East back in March, and they

especially didn't expect that when

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you had Dalton Vasso having a late

start to the season coming off injury.

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Anthony Santander getting hurt.

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Matt Scherzer getting injured

in his first start in Toronto.

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Going on the io and quite frankly,

many of us thought that was it.

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Max was gonna go outside and his

Hall of Fame career was gonna end

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in Toronto with a back injury.

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At no point was there any discussions

about winning the A L East, let alone

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winning the American League, and

then going on to the World Series.

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But something changed.

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There's clearly something in

that clubhouse that was stoked.

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An attitude, a sense of cohesion.

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The next man up, if you

will, to use a football term.

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Every position, no matter who was

playing, they were playing for the team.

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Names like Nathan Lucas,

Addison Baja, Ernie Clemente.

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David Schneider in the

back end of this season.

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Eric Lauer, who was asked to come

out from his bullpen roll and start.

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He kept the rotation together

because it was Gosman Bassett.

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Bowden Francis is injured.

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Jose LIOs.

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Jose LIOs did his vest.

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He may have played his last game for the

Toronto Blue Jays, but he did his best.

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But so many unsung heroes stepped up

for this team and they carried this

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team to that 94 win regular season.

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They toggled the New York Yankees by

tiebreaker, but they toppled them.

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And then to make sure that it wasn't

a fluke and to silence any potential

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doubters from down south of America.

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They pushed him aside in the A LD

one for good measure, and it was

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done with the health of a 22-year-old

who had just come up from the

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miners by the name of Trea Savage.

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That name will definitely be

remembered in: 2026

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He's still rookie eligible, so he's in the

front running to win Rookie of the year.

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The team would then go into the A LCS

running into Seattle, who by all the

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counts, had the best rotation in baseball.

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And it showed in the first two games they

came into Toronto and they punched Toronto

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Blue Jays in the mouth, the Trident that

they carry around for the home runs.

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It was very prominent coming outta

their dugout early and often.

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But the true believers I'm talking

about the clubhouse and also the fans.

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They kept believing, they

believed that they would, the

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season was not gonna end there.

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That would not be the last

game played in Toronto.

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In 2025, the team would indeed come back

to finish the series, and indeed they did.

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They took two games in Seattle.

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The next two games in fact.

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Game five was controversial.

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. Manager moves.

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We'll get to that later on in

terms of managing moves, but

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Seattle came back to Toronto.

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Three.

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Two up, ready to win.

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Ready to take out the Blue

Jays and go to their first

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world use in franchise history.

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Not so fast.

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Not so fast

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because the Blue Jays.

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They won game six with the backs

against the wall and went to game

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seven and with a loud and raucous

stone, they would take on the best

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that Seattle had to throw at them.

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And it was pretty good from the Mariners.

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They had the lead in game seven.

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To the very end.

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There were three one up.

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Remember going into the seventh inning

and then upstairs, George Springer.

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George Springer, who, to be honest, at

the beginning of the season, there were

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questions of whether he still had it.

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There were discussions of whether

the club needed to eat some

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salary and make him go away.

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He stayed overcame whatever injuries that

he had, and he came back with a vengeance.

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The George Springer of Old leading

the team with his example and leading

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the team in the batting order, he

would hit a courageous home run,

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carrying the team from a three one

deficit to a four, three lead and more

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importantly, carrying the team to the

third ever World Series in club history.

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That game would be closed up by Jeff

Hoffman, who'd had a great postseason

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through the first two rounds, so onto

the longest week in October, as I

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call it, LA Dodgers, coming into town.

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The fest game is, I'm

remembered as euphoric because.

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The whole world was put on notice.

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As the Blue Jays crushed, Los Angeles.

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Dodges smacked them in the

mouth and taking a one N lead.

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But then Yosano Yama murder came back,

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and in the first of three occasions,

he would win off his own pitching.

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We know how the rest of this series

played out, but I wanna get into some of

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the stuff that happened in game seven.

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' cause some of you need to hear it some.

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Some of you are still

thinking about what happened.

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You're still second guessing

and we need to go over it.

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Stay with me ' cause

we're gonna let it out.

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It's gonna be therapeutic and it's

also gonna be a way forward as

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this team will take a step forward.

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There's already been a step forward

by one of the pitches that arrived

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at the deadline, the trade deadline.

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Shane Viva.

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Many thought he would opt

out of his contracting.

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Elect to go to free agency with a

potential multi-year deal waiting for

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him now that he is a couple of seasons

removed from Tommy John's surgery.

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Also having pitched in the

postseason, having started

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a game, in the World Series.

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It is noted that he's also the pitcher

that did give off the winning run, coming

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out of the bullpen in game seven, but.

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His opting in is significant.

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It says two things.

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You see something in Toronto, you don't

opt into a place where you don't want

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to be, and you especially don't opt in

for one season when there's a looming

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shadow of a lockout, which may happen

if Major League Baseball and the players

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union cannot come to an agreement on

a new collective bargaining agreement.

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At the start of December,

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the World Series next season.

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That's a very short amount of time for a

free agent like Viba to get a deal done.

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But here we are.

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He said, I don't want the security

of a multi-year contract elsewhere.

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Give me another season in Toronto.

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I like what I saw.

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I like what they're doing up there.

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Let me have some of that.

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That's a big tick.

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Big tick for what John Schneider

has cultivated in the clubhouse.

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And also a big tick for the front office.

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' cause the front office, they

were going through it in spring,

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they didn't have vD Guerrero Jr.

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Signed up for a contract

extinction beyond this season.

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Imagine if Lagar Rodina is slapping.

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All those hits and home runs without

a contract beyond this season, that

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$500 million deal is nonexistent.

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He's getting 600, 6 50 easy.

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Someone like Steve Cohen is probably

gonna potentially offer him 700 million.

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One of those owners that is not backward.

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In coming forward with a big contract,

he's gonna offer 700 million.

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Because you are getting a

gold glove defender, which

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we saw often in the playoffs.

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You're getting a consistent hitter and

you're getting someone who's tightened

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up on the strikeouts, to be quite honest,

' cause I know Kyle Schwaber is out there.

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You can go get Kyle Schwaber,

you can go get someone who can

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slash home runs like Peter Lonzo.

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But you are going to get Ks, you're

gonna get a lot of Ks and you're

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gonna get a lot of frustration.

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Lagar Junior gives you offensive

production, defensive talent,

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which continues to improve.

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So the ceiling hasn't been reached

there, and you get that at a young age.

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So the Blue Jays give themselves a

great service when they gave in that

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14 year contract, it is a discount.

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And someone could say, yeah, but they

could have had him for 2 50, 300.

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Absolutely.

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If they got the deal done after the.

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20 21 season where he

is slashing in Buffalo.

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Yeah, that's a real discount.

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But things happened for

a reason and V Guro Jr.

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Stepped up.

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He didn't just step up at the plate.

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He stepped up in as a leader.

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He heard it after games, the way

he pretty much pleads and sweats

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for this city, for this country.

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He understands the assignment.

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He understands.

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How it is now fun and games is over in

the sense that . You still have your home

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run jacket, you can have your Gatorade

showers, but you need to lead as well.

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And he's doing that in spades.

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I, so they made a great

decision with that.

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We'll see what they do with Bobette.

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I'm sure both parties want

to come back together.

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And get it done, whether that's a 7, 8, 9

year contract, I'm sure Bobo, she wants to

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continue playing with Flat Guerrero, Jr.

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Whether that's as a short

stop or as a second basin.

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Time will tell by the fact that

Boba, she hit a three one Homer in

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the World Series on one leg and was

willing to do the stuff that was

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uncomfortable, literally uncomfortable.

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Playing at second base position, you

had not played in the majors before.

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Doing all the stuff you had to do

offensively and defensively while injured.

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Other players would've

just said, nah, I'm good.

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Get that bench player

to play instead of me.

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I gotta make a business decision

and thinking about my durability.

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But no, Bob had said, let

me have an opportunity.

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Let me have an opportunity to

make a difference for this team.

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Because he wants to win and he

wants to win as much for himself

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as he does for his teammates.

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That's the kind of play you want.

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So there's a lot of things that Blue Jays

fans can appreciate and be grateful for.

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The team won over a hundred games.

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Tie the franchise record

for wins in the season.

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Records are being broken, left and center.

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When it came to offensive production.

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Ernie Clement, flag Guerrero Jr.

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Their pro seasons will be up there.

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They'll be up in The Annals.

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It'll be very hard to bring those

records down, but as I look out the

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window, I see what looks like frost.

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Winter is coming, my

friends, winter is coming.

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We are at least a hundred days

away from spring training and we're

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most definitely 140 days or so from

competitive major league baseball,

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and that is a long time to have to sit

and think about what might have been.

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Because the record book will say

that the Blue Jays pushed the all

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conquering Los Angeles Dodgers

in seven games, and that is fact.

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The Dodgers won four, three.

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No one's disputing that, but I'm here

to tell you that the Blue Jays were

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good enough to win that series in five.

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That's not hyperbole,

that's not exaggerating.

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That's just what I saw.

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His Toronto Blue Jay's team was

good enough to win the World Series.

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In five games.

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There were points of opportunity.

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If you look at game two, where they lost

to Yamamoto for the first time in Toronto.

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They had the basis load

in the first inning.

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They had guys in scoring

position in the first inning

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and they did not capitalize.

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And as we'd learn, that was the moment.

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That was where you had

to get on top of them.

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Get runs on the board, get Dave Roberts.

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Thinking about the bullpen didn't happen.

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Game three, Bob, she gets picked off.

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Dalton Val show is rung up.

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It's a delayed call, but Bob,

she is in no man's land on the

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base house and base running

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gonna become a theme in

this, but he gets rung up.

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The shake gets picked off.

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It's an unusual double play.

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And then we fast forward to the end of

the nine innings and the game's tied.

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However, the Blue Jays lineup has

been largely subbed out, and it's a

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number of guys we don't see every day.

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Miles, straw.

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David Schneider, IKF, Ty, France.

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I really weren't meant to be there

for the, on incoming nine innings of

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extra baseball, but there they were.

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And I was a slow death.

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There was a lot that can be said

about both end decisions, this,

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that, the other, but end of the day.

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Game three in Los Angeles

was the Blue Jays to win.

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Runners left on base, couldn't capitalize.

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Unfortunate, but couldn't

quite get it done.

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Nevertheless, the Blue Jays bounce

back 'cause that's what they do.

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They win game four, they win game

five, and all of a sudden, , blue

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Jays have two opportunities.

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To end immortality to win

the World Series at home.

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Now the Dodgers are known

for winning on the road.

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If you listen to the previous two

episodes with Mellow from Around the

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Diamond, please do he's facing a and d.

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Told our audience that the have won

six or seven championships on the road.

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That's just what they do.

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It's now seven of eight.

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They seemed to like winning on away turf,

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but the blue Jays had

their chances in game six.

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Again, runners were in score.

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Requisition not capitalized on ya.

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: 00:16:27

Moto showed the way with his pitching.

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But once the bullpen came in,

opportunities presented themselves.

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There's an infamous lodged ball that

if it goes inches either way, left,

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right up, down, that's a double

and runs is scored, and the blue

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Jays are heading towards victory.

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And then the final play, . expected

average on his hit is seven 10.

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That's expected to be a base hit seven

times outta 10, but kike canez somehow

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pulls off a catch on the run and then

for good measure makes the play with a

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heads up throw take out bar ats second.

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This is important 'cause that event

is gonna influence the next night,

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so keep that in your back pocket.

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Okay, so we get to game seven.

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The best two words in sports,

allegedly I think they are.

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If you're a neutral game,

seven is definitely exciting.

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It is nerve wracking if you are on

either side involved in the game.

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Nevertheless, Toronto still has a

chance to finish the World Series

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on their own turf, so let's go.

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The game starts.

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T's in there.

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Tani gets touched up by Bura.

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She, but the, she

unfortunately cannot run.

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So you have an instance where Burette is

on third base and you can't take him out.

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Not this early in the game.

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You can't have a pinch runner for

him and this early in the game.

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But , if he's healthy, he's

running home in the first instance.

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That my friends is the winning

run right there, in my opinion.

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That was the winning run.

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Healthy Vette runs home.

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Oh is good.

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Doesn't happen.

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Nevertheless.

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Less.

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Bette gets hooked to home

plate at a different bat.

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He hits a home, run a famous

home, run a three run home.

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Run A Jack that was heard around.

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Canada, from coast to coast,

from the Atlantic to British

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Columbia, from north to south.

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All the territories, everyone heard it,

you felt the roar from the dome Toronto.

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Three up to the good.

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But the Dodgers would not relinquish

their title without a fight, and by way

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of attrition, they made their way back.

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They didn't do it with

multi run home runs.

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They did it brick by brick, run by run.

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They picked their points

and they found a way.

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Good teams find a way.

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We get to the end of the

game, the nervy times now.

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Yes, Jeff Hoffman gave up the.

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Tying run

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is probably a spider that he'd

wish he had back against me.

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Al Rojas, a nine hitter who wasn't

really doing much or postseason, but

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he now lives in LA folklore forever.

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But even then, the Blue Jays

still had a chance to respond.

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They're playing at home.

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. And quite frankly, throughout that week,

leading up to game six and game seven,

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I thought , it was gonna be a walk off.

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So the night before, prior

to Barger getting doubled

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off, I thought, okay, great.

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EZ is going to find a gap and it's

going to be the position for a walk off.

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Because the Blue Jays had not

had a walk off all postseason.

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Imagine going all the way to the World's

series and not having a walk off.

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Maybe there's gonna be a lot of walk

offs next season in: 2026

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: 00:19:09

They have to get there first.

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Anyway, back to game six and game seven.

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No walk off.

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Although throughout the week

I anticipated, I just expected

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it, so I'm there thinking.

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These guys are just gonna walk it off.

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: 00:19:20

I planned mentally to go

all the way to ninth inning.

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I was ready for it.

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I knew it was gonna be

nervous, but I was ready.

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This is what this team does.

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They find a way to come back.

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: 00:19:29

The Blue Jays come back.

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: 00:19:30

Yet the luck wasn't on their side

in the ninth inning as they left.

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Under the instruction of his

coaches is told to keep a shorter

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: 00:19:38

lead referencing, Barger getting

picked off the night before.

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Now IKF then gets an opportunity

with Dalton Vos at the plate.

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: 00:19:45

I really thought that was the

walk off from him guys, but

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Vaso, it's a, it's into a field.

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: 00:19:50

His choice situation to Miguel, Ross, ROS.

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: 00:19:53

Picks it up.

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: 00:19:54

Double pumps, he bubbles it.

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: 00:19:56

And that's on Calf's chance I calf.

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: 00:19:58

He slides into the plate a slide that

I've seen a lot from his time in New York.

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: 00:20:02

I feel like that slide is something

that he manufactured in New York.

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: 00:20:05

'cause the Yankees very much

into that football foot.

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: 00:20:08

First slide.

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: 00:20:09

They're very much about that.

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: 00:20:10

I know they do a lot of work with the Jets

and football guys to Perfect that slide.

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: 00:20:15

So if we're gonna blame anyone

blaming New York Jets Yep.

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: 00:20:19

Or IKF slides in and he's a foot short.

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: 00:20:21

Will Smith has his foot come off the

plate as he is receiving the ball, but

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: 00:20:24

he has announced to get his foot back

down and he has it down just in time.

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: 00:20:29

Just in time to make the play,

keep the Dodgers in the World

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: 00:20:32

Series and IKF is out now.

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: 00:20:35

Could IKF have improved his

lead off third base to match Max

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: 00:20:40

Mony, who was the third base.

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: 00:20:41

Absolutely.

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: 00:20:42

Could he have moved with

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: 00:20:44

a bit more pace on the front

foot with a secondary lead.

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: 00:20:47

Absolutely.

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: 00:20:48

That's something that they

teach us in cricket, by the way.

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: 00:20:50

It's not just a basic thing, it's a

cricket thing that as the ball is being

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: 00:20:53

delivered, you move in with the play.

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: 00:20:56

Once that ball is in a throwing motion,

you move onto your front foot, so you

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: 00:21:00

are, you have a downward motion, so you're

already adding pace, velocity, speed.

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: 00:21:06

If you watch the play, I can't.

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: 00:21:07

He's a bit static.

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: 00:21:09

He's a bit upright, doesn't do that,

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: 00:21:11

but Blue J still have a chance to win.

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: 00:21:13

They still have a chance to win

any Clement steps up cracks.

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: 00:21:16

The ball to center field.

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: 00:21:18

Kike Hernandez and Andy P.

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: 00:21:19

Who subs in for Tommy Edmond.

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: 00:21:21

They collide yet, pier, to his credit,

does not take his eye after the ball.

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: 00:21:25

If PS took his eye after the ball,

any stretch of that attempt to catch

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: 00:21:28

the ball, that ball was coming out.

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: 00:21:30

And two runs of scoring at least.

473

: 00:21:32

And the vouge win that World Series.

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: 00:21:34

But PS was brought in to

defend and he did his job.

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: 00:21:38

He had eyes only for the

ball, and he did his job.

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: 00:21:41

I guess we have to give Dave Roberts

credit because he made two moves in center

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: 00:21:45

field on two nights that saved the game.

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: 00:21:48

In game six, he brought in Justin Dean

Center fielder, who he's not known

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: 00:21:51

for his bat, known for his defense.

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: 00:21:53

And Justin Dean famously throws his hands

up as the ball gets lodge in the wall

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: 00:21:57

next night.

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: 00:21:58

He brings in 90 Pius, who's can't hit

the bond door in the postseason, but

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: 00:22:02

he can defend and he makes that catch.

484

: 00:22:04

So Dave Roberts made the moves.

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: 00:22:06

Dave Roberts made the moves

he was supposed to make.

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: 00:22:09

I don't know if that comes from being

in the World Series a few times.

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: 00:22:11

I don't know if that comes from.

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: 00:22:12

Having those bad experiences that he

had in the: 2010

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: 00:22:17

he was famous for almost mismanaging

his team outta the playoffs, but

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: 00:22:21

in that moment, in that weekend,

he out managed John Schneider.

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: 00:22:26

He gotta give Dave Roberts credit

for that and that it makes me

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: 00:22:28

wonder if Schneider was a little

bit caught up by that experience or

493

: 00:22:32

that difference in experience, but.

494

: 00:22:34

At the same time, you have to

think that Schneider will be

495

: 00:22:36

better for the experience in 2026.

496

: 00:22:39

So let's look at it again.

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: 00:22:41

The Blue Jays won three games officially

in the world threes, and then I'll say

498

: 00:22:45

that they were good enough to win three

of the games that the Dodgers won.

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: 00:22:49

Game two.

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: 00:22:50

Okay.

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: 00:22:50

I'm willing to concede that

they didn't really have a

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: 00:22:53

shot beyond that first inning.

503

: 00:22:55

Once that first inning was done, they

didn't have a shot against, so I'll

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: 00:22:57

concede that they lost that game.

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: 00:22:59

Proper.

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: 00:23:00

If they score runs in the first

inning, might be a different story,

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: 00:23:02

but the next three games, they

absolutely could and should have won.

508

: 00:23:06

They should have won game three.

509

: 00:23:08

They didn't take the chances on base.

510

: 00:23:09

Guys were taken up a little bit

too early and it became , an

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: 00:23:12

nutritional 18 inning slog game.

512

: 00:23:15

Six again, runners in scoring position.

513

: 00:23:18

Chances weren't taken and I

just were able to find a way.

514

: 00:23:21

I just were able to.

515

: 00:23:21

Keep them at bay and win three one,

but the chances were definitely

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: 00:23:25

there, especially down the stretch

after your motor leaves the game.

517

: 00:23:28

Blue Jays could have and

should have won that game.

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: 00:23:30

They should have really won

the World Series in six.

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: 00:23:33

I feel like game six may have

been the game seven for the Blue

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: 00:23:35

Jays, what they had the second

chance, which was game seven.

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: 00:23:39

Another game that goes extra innings.

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: 00:23:40

Three or 17 with runners and scoring

position and 14 left on base, I'm sorry.

523

: 00:23:44

You are hurting yourself.

524

: 00:23:46

Your opposition's giving you the

opportunity, the opposition's giving

525

: 00:23:49

you the basis you need to convert it.

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: 00:23:51

So my message is this.

527

: 00:23:53

Learn from it.

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: 00:23:54

I know the front office is gonna.

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: 00:23:56

I'd probably consider the base running

among other things, but runners in

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: 00:23:59

scoring position, that's the key

learning case in point: 2024

531

: 00:24:03

they were undone by fundamentals.

532

: 00:24:05

They did not take care of the

defensive priorities, fielding, they

533

: 00:24:10

didn't take care of the base running.

534

: 00:24:11

There seemed to be a sense of.

535

: 00:24:12

Complacency entitlement almost

that they're just gonna get back

536

: 00:24:15

there again in 2025 'cause they're

a good baseball team on paper.

537

: 00:24:18

And they were half right.

538

: 00:24:19

They matched the Blue Jays

in terms of winning record.

539

: 00:24:21

But guess what?

540

: 00:24:22

If they took care of the issues that

they had in the postseason, if they

541

: 00:24:26

took care of that in the spring, they

wouldn't have ended up in the Wild card.

542

: 00:24:29

They would've won the division.

543

: 00:24:30

They didn't do that though.

544

: 00:24:31

They lost so many games.

545

: 00:24:32

They should have been

a hundred win season.

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: 00:24:34

But they left the door open

for the Blue Jays to push them

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: 00:24:37

out and then eliminate them.

548

: 00:24:38

If I'm Toronto, I don't make that mistake.

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: 00:24:41

I look back and what went wrong and

I fix my base running situation.

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: 00:24:44

If that means that Senior Feles has

to move on from Fed Base and move

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: 00:24:49

'em into a different role, ' cause

the number of times that guys get

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: 00:24:52

picked off, caught out, caught.

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: 00:24:54

In no man's land

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: 00:24:55

and then I find a way to fix the

runners in scoring position situation.

555

: 00:24:59

'cause the Blue Jays improved the

hitting exponentially in: 2025

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: 00:25:03

David Popkin is manner from

heaven to use a biblical term.

557

: 00:25:06

The team that could not hit in 2024 was

driving in, runs like a NASCAR driver.

558

: 00:25:13

Sorry.

559

: 00:25:13

A Formula One driver.

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: 00:25:14

'cause left, right center,

NASCAR's just left anyway.

561

: 00:25:17

Runs all over the ballpark.

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: 00:25:19

Popkin is improving the swing.

563

: 00:25:22

He's getting guys to improve their

bat speed, contact damage, aggression.

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: 00:25:27

Great guys are getting on base.

565

: 00:25:29

The next evolution of 2026.

566

: 00:25:31

Get those guys home.

567

: 00:25:32

Rogers, the owner of the

Blue Jays had a slogan.

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: 00:25:34

In 2025 for the World

Series, bring it home.

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: 00:25:37

That needs to be the

slogan for the offense.

570

: 00:25:40

Bring it home.

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: 00:25:41

Get those guys on base back to home

plate, and make it known in the box

572

: 00:25:46

score that you are a good team, because

too many times the LOB count was

573

: 00:25:51

higher than the run count, and that

hurt the Blue Jays when it mattered.

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: 00:25:55

Most the Blue Jays scored more runs.

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: 00:25:57

Than the Dodgers in the World Series.

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: 00:26:00

Truth be told, that is

not an exaggeration.

577

: 00:26:02

That is fact.

578

: 00:26:03

The Blue Jays scored none other then

34 runs compared to the Dodgers.

579

: 00:26:09

26, but it was scored in bunches.

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: 00:26:11

The Dodgers scored that runs.

581

: 00:26:13

More spread out.

582

: 00:26:14

They scored runs consistently.

583

: 00:26:15

Each game you really need five or six

runs to beat the Dodgers and there were

584

: 00:26:19

a few times where the Blue Jays ended up

with 1, 2, 3 runs when they really needed

585

: 00:26:25

that five or six to get past the lineup.

586

: 00:26:28

That is the LA Dodgers nevertheless.

587

: 00:26:30

There is a lot for this Blue Jays

team and the fans to be grateful for.

588

: 00:26:34

Keep in mind that the Blue Jays

made it to nine and one third

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: 00:26:37

innings of the World Series.

590

: 00:26:39

They pushed the Dodgers all

that way having never ever

591

: 00:26:42

put out their best lineup.

592

: 00:26:44

The best lineup to me would have

Anthony Santander, Boba She VLA Jr.

593

: 00:26:49

George Springer, Dalton

Vaso, Alejandro Kirk.

594

: 00:26:52

In whatever audio you wanna put them in.

595

: 00:26:54

But those would you, the guys that will

be in the lineup, not once in: 2025

596

: 00:26:58

the PUIs have all of those guys available

and yet, in spite of that, in spite of

597

: 00:27:04

injuries, absences, they still made it

all the way to the World Series game seven

598

: 00:27:10

ninth thinning with one out, and they

had the game in the hands in their hands.

599

: 00:27:17

That's a lot to build upon,

but you can't stand pat.

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: 00:27:20

You can't make the mistake of other teams.

601

: 00:27:22

I'm talking about 2015 mets, 2016 Indians,

thinking about: 2011

602

: 00:27:30

You cannot make the mistake and

say, oh, we'll be back next year.

603

: 00:27:33

As I said at the top,

it's so hard to repeat.

604

: 00:27:35

It's so hard to repeat as a champion, and

it's even harder to repeat as a team that

605

: 00:27:38

went to the World Series and didn't get

it done ' cause you already have a short

606

: 00:27:41

off season compared to everyone else.

607

: 00:27:43

You play an extra month of baseball

and everyone else is resting further to

608

: 00:27:46

that, the whole continent was watching

you and now they want your players.

609

: 00:27:50

So keeping that team together, good luck.

610

: 00:27:52

Shane Viva.

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: 00:27:53

Staying in Toronto is a big deal.

612

: 00:27:55

It was in his control.

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: 00:27:56

He had the option, which he exercised

, to stay, but keeping a team together,

614

: 00:28:00

that's into the World Series.

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: 00:28:01

Not easy, and a lot of teams that go to

the World Series don't get back there.

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: 00:28:06

Again,

617

: 00:28:06

the Blue Jays will need to improve.

618

: 00:28:08

Someone might say, Hey, but they made

the World Series with an incomplete

619

: 00:28:11

lineup and they had all these guys

come in that were next man up and

620

: 00:28:14

they did this, that the other.

621

: 00:28:15

Yeah, that's fine.

622

: 00:28:16

But it's not about you.

623

: 00:28:17

It's about your opposition.

624

: 00:28:18

New York.

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: 00:28:19

New York got embarrassed on

their own turf, their own grass.

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: 00:28:22

They will spend Boston who

made the wild card and then.

627

: 00:28:25

Got kicked out so quickly.

628

: 00:28:27

Sometimes forget they even

made the postseason in: 2025

629

: 00:28:30

Henry's gonna spend, Mr.

630

: 00:28:31

Henry, Tampa Bay have new owners.

631

: 00:28:33

They're gonna have a new

stadium in a couple of years.

632

: 00:28:34

They're not going to be marketing

that stadium with whatever underground

633

: 00:28:40

acquisition that they normally bring in.

634

: 00:28:42

That's underrated and it's gonna

become a Moneyball sensation.

635

: 00:28:45

No, they're going to spend, they're

going to bring in a marquee name or

636

: 00:28:49

two, maybe three, and they're going

to build up towards that new ballpark

637

: 00:28:53

opening before the end of this decade.

638

: 00:28:54

Baltimore, the OS have a new owner.

639

: 00:28:57

They kept Mike Elias.

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: 00:28:58

Elias had a rough 2025, probably

didn't do enough, but they.

641

: 00:29:03

They know they're in

the toughest division.

642

: 00:29:04

They are going to make moves 'cause

they still have that young core

643

: 00:29:08

and that young core is

going to be supported.

644

: 00:29:10

It has to be supported.

645

: 00:29:11

You cannot waste that prime any longer.

646

: 00:29:13

So

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: 00:29:14

When you have those factors in addition

to what is happening in the NL Central

648

: 00:29:17

and the NL West, you feel the Blue Jays.

649

: 00:29:19

You cannot run it back.

650

: 00:29:20

That's malpractice.

651

: 00:29:21

If you're the Blue Jays and you've

given the city of Toronto and the

652

: 00:29:25

country of Canada, the taste of glory

or the proximity to the point where

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: 00:29:31

champagne is being put in the clubhouse.

654

: 00:29:33

Champagne flute to being put out

at bars in and around the stadium.

655

: 00:29:37

That's how close you were to the title.

656

: 00:29:39

When you give people that.

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: 00:29:40

Closeness to glory.

658

: 00:29:42

Glory that has not been experienced

in this country for 32 years.

659

: 00:29:45

You cannot run it back.

660

: 00:29:46

You cannot just say, no, we're good.

661

: 00:29:50

We're punched above our weight, and

we're just gonna be happy with that.

662

: 00:29:54

And I'll tell you why.

663

: 00:29:55

There's 500 million reasons why

you did not give Vladimir Guro Jr.

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: 00:29:59

Half a billion dollars.

665

: 00:30:00

To play baseball and think that you are

gonna support him, especially not now.

666

: 00:30:04

Especially not now.

667

: 00:30:06

You are going to build around him.

668

: 00:30:07

You are going to build around him.

669

: 00:30:08

'cause you show that initial ambition

and when the books are closed, by

670

: 00:30:12

the way, for 2025 and Rogers sees

that they've made every cent that

671

: 00:30:17

they have set aside for that man.

672

: 00:30:20

The fact that they have

already made a back.

673

: 00:30:22

Based on the 2025 season loan with the

merchandise, the extended post-season

674

: 00:30:27

run, the commercial value of deals being

done, the commercials that were being

675

: 00:30:32

sold through the post-season run, when

they see that they've already made a

676

: 00:30:36

return on investment for Vladimir Guro Jr.

677

: 00:30:39

I promise you they'll be

empowered to spend some more

678

: 00:30:42

and then we'll just spend money.

679

: 00:30:43

Now the Blue Jays are in winnow mode.

680

: 00:30:45

They did very well with what

is perceived to be not as much.

681

: 00:30:50

Now you build and now you start

having tough discussions about your

682

: 00:30:55

prospects because some of those

prospects will be playing in different

683

: 00:30:59

uniforms in the next year or two.

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: 00:31:01

You have to go for it.

685

: 00:31:02

You owe it to this city,

you owe it to this country.

686

: 00:31:05

To make a push and finish the job

t was started by the class of: 2025

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: 00:31:09

It is worth noting that this is the first

World Series under Roger's ownership.

688

: 00:31:13

This is new to them as

it is for many of us.

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: 00:31:16

'cause there are multiple generations

that did not experience a Blue Jays

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: 00:31:20

World Series before this month just gone.

691

: 00:31:23

But if you think I'm joking,

take a look at the: 2024

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: 00:31:28

Okay?

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: 00:31:28

They paid 700 million,

700 million for Tane.

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: 00:31:32

A lot of it is deferred.

695

: 00:31:33

I get all of that.

696

: 00:31:34

But not only do they go to the World

Series and win, but through that

697

: 00:31:38

run, the Dodgers had revenue of

$752 million, seven five 2 million.

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: 00:31:44

I am not saying that Blue Jays is gonna

make , seven 50 million themselves.

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: 00:31:48

I know the dynamics are a little bit

different for LA and Toronto, but I'm

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: 00:31:51

telling you right now that they're

making 500 million minimum, they're

701

: 00:31:54

getting their money back from Vlad

and then some they, so Rogers are

702

: 00:31:57

gonna be able to take that and they're

gonna be able to use that for payroll.

703

: 00:32:00

Okay.

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: 00:32:01

Roger spent 71% of revenue

on payroll for the Blue Jays.

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: 00:32:05

Great.

706

: 00:32:06

Whatever you make in 2025, put

it back into the ball club.

707

: 00:32:09

Don't be holding it.

708

: 00:32:10

Don't be tight.

709

: 00:32:11

Nobody wants to see that.

710

: 00:32:12

Your time is now make power moves.

711

: 00:32:15

Be in the conversation as you

have been for Soto and Tani.

712

: 00:32:18

Remain in those conversations

for Murakami scribble.

713

: 00:32:21

Not just free agents, but also trades.

714

: 00:32:23

Be in those conversations.

715

: 00:32:25

Make moves.

716

: 00:32:26

Your time is now.

717

: 00:32:27

Baseball is about fleeting moments.

718

: 00:32:29

Go for it.

719

: 00:32:30

Don't die wondering.

720

: 00:32:31

' cause the only way to heal from

the pain of: 2025

721

: 00:32:34

And 2026 is your first opportunity.

722

: 00:32:36

Do it quickly.

723

: 00:32:37

Don't let this be a 32 year wait.

724

: 00:32:40

Good grief.

725

: 00:32:41

So I'll close by saying this, and

thank you for listening to this point.

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: 00:32:45

, There's a lot to be grateful for in 2025.

727

: 00:32:48

I'm always grateful in this baseball

'cause I still remember those days

728

: 00:32:51

when it's not longer what we didn't

have baseball for a long time.

729

: 00:32:53

We had that condensed 2020 season.

730

: 00:32:55

And then if you are in Canada, Toronto

specifically, we didn't have baseball.

731

: 00:32:59

From end of 2019, all the way to the

middle of 20 21, with the Buffalo Seasons.

732

: 00:33:06

So I'm always grateful for

baseball and the same way that

733

: 00:33:08

I'm always grateful for my gym.

734

: 00:33:10

'cause my gym was closed for a year

or two during pandemic lockdown.

735

: 00:33:13

So I'm grateful for

things when I have them.

736

: 00:33:15

' cause you really find

out when it's not there.

737

: 00:33:17

And I really hope that the Blue Jays

: 2025

738

: 00:33:21

I really hope there's a sense

of sustainability about it.

739

: 00:33:25

' cause the contracts are there

the players can stay together.

740

: 00:33:28

It's not like this is a last dance

situation where it's a bunch of old

741

: 00:33:31

guys, older guys who are on the last,

right now there's a lot of youth.

742

: 00:33:35

There's always also a lot of experiences.

743

: 00:33:37

There's a lot of youth and there's a

lot to be grateful for 'cause they,

744

: 00:33:40

they seem to have a lot of love for each

other and a lot of time for each other.

745

: 00:33:44

And that's gonna be important

when you're going around for

746

: 00:33:48

160 plus games each season.

747

: 00:33:50

Getting along is, it's a bare

minimum, but I know the professionals.

748

: 00:33:54

But to have genuine affection for each

other as bros, you'll love to see it.

749

: 00:33:58

And I'll take this opportunity to

thank everyone who's been on the show

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: 00:34:02

during this baseball season, guests

and guys who have met along the way.

751

: 00:34:05

It's been a pleasure.

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: 00:34:06

Really appreciate you because

baseball's a beautiful thing.

753

: 00:34:09

Some say it's long, many

don't be a part of it.

754

: 00:34:11

It's a beautiful thing.

755

: 00:34:12

And if you're among like-minded people,

the community that you build from.

756

: 00:34:16

February slash March through

the October, November.

757

: 00:34:18

Yeah, , it's hard to beat.

758

: 00:34:20

. So as we go from fall to winter, we go

into the hot stove season, we observing

759

: 00:34:25

or watching, seeing what moves are

made across Major League baseball.

760

: 00:34:29

But if Shane Beaver's opt in, is

anything to be indicative of how

761

: 00:34:34

the off season will play out?

762

: 00:34:35

I think the Blue Jay's on the right

track because before they battled, they

763

: 00:34:39

had to get across stigmas about the

border, about travel, about winter,

764

: 00:34:44

cold, this, that, the other, when you are

winning baseball games and going to the

765

: 00:34:47

pro season, those things don't matter.

766

: 00:34:49

And when you have a good ball

club, people wanna play with you.

767

: 00:34:52

They wanna be alongside Vlad,

they wanna be alongside Trey

768

: 00:34:55

and Savage and other guys.

769

: 00:34:56

So let's take that in our stride as

we walk on and we walk towards 2 26.

770

: 00:35:01

I've been your host, Neil Bruce, and

this has been another episode of PSP.