All-Star Game Highlights and Insights with Noel White
In this episode of PSP, host Nii Wallace-Bruce welcomes Noel White from 92.9 The Game in Atlanta to discuss the recent Major League Baseball All-Star game in Atlanta. They dive into the significance of the event (05:58), including a moving tribute to Hank Aaron (02:30).
The conversation also touches on the WNBA All-Star Weekend (11:48), the potential return of NHL hockey to Atlanta, and the growth and challenges facing women's sports (17:31). The episode also features insights into the broader sports landscape, including TV deals and the economics of sports franchises (22:24).
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. PSP: Welcome into another episode of PSP.
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:I am the host with the most Mr.
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:Knee Wallace Spruce, and it
is hot across North America.
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:It is hot in the north here in Toronto,
and hot Atlanta, Georgia, where they
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:just had the Major League All-Star game.
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:And that is a story itself that was
also quite hot on the field of play.
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:So to take us through that and more,
it is the host, producer, the creator.
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:She does pretty much everything
over at 92 9, the Game in Atlanta.
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:It is friend of the show,
Noelle White how you doing?
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:A. Noel White:
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:I am doing great.
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:It's so great to be back on with you
to discuss all things Atlanta, which
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:is my favorite topic as you know.
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:PSP: No doubt.
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:And there was even a bit of soccer
down there at the Mercedes-Benz
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:Stadium when the club woke up.
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:I won't have much time to get into that.
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:But let's talk about the event du jour,
which is Baseball's Midsummer Classic.
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:You were able to get in and
around, so the event at the
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:Battery or in the City of Atlanta.
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:A. Noel White:
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:So once I finished the Sam and Greg show
on Saturday, I immediately jetted over.
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:To Cobb Galleria where they set up this
amazing MLB experience where you go
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:inside and you kind of greeted with.
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:A history of the league exhibit.
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:You get like a Negro League breakdown.
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:You get a Latino breakdown,
Pacific Islander breakdown and
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:how they kind of joined the
Negro League and what they mean.
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:Well, how they joined the MLB
and what they mean to the MLB.
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:And then you go inside to where
all the exciting stuff is.
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:I mean, they had a, a.
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:A ballpark indoor, where kids were running
around and hitting balls and things.
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:They had a virtual MLB show experience.
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:You could get a hat made, you
could check out all the home run
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:derby chains from the past years.
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:I mean, it was, it was incredible.
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:There was so much to
see and so much to do.
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:I think I was there for
like three, four hours.
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:PSP: Fantastic.
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:And there was quite a bit of
anticipation going into this one.
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:Atlanta was slated to host
the event a few years ago.
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:It wasn't meant to be, but
they got it done in:
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:How big of an impact does this Star
Week have on the city in your opinion?
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:A. Noel White:
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:It, we see us as we see the city
of Atlanta as the southeast sports
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:capital of the world, right?
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:So in, in saying that and in, you know,
crowning ourselves with that title,
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:these are the types of events that
prove it, that we can host M-L-B-W-W-E.
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:, Club World Cup and Beyonce
within a 10 day time span.
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:PSP: Yeah, I almost Beyonce concert.
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:I saw some, some.
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:The, the 15th of July, which
is seven 15, and that was
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yes.
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:PSP: in a special way.
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:I don't know if this is by design , but
, that was the day that the Allstar game
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:itself was hosted, and at the end of
the sixth inning, there was a really
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:great tribute to Hank Karen who is.
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:Braves legend, a baseball legend,
the home run record for so long, and
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:there was tribute to him Breaking
Babe Ruth's record at the time when he
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:hit the 715th home run of his career.
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:Was that by design, the fact that
they hosted it on seven 15 or
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:was it just a happy coincidence?
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:A. Noel White:
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:I think that was amazing synergy, but I
applaud whoever realized that seven 15
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:was a very significant day in Atlanta.
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:And taking the seventh inning stretch,
which is a big deal all over the league.
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:But here in Atlanta we do
the seventh inning stretch.
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:We do it up big.
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:And so to take that moment to recreate
Hank Aaron's night and Relive seven 15.
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:On seven 15 while we
host the Allstar game.
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:Was it, it was incredible.
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:It was incredible to see.
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:I re-watched it again right before we
hopped on, just so I could get that
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:feeling again of what it was like.
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:It was, it was a great use
of digital layovers as well.
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:And then when you had
the, the fireworks shot.
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:To represent that last home
run going over the fence.
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:It was, it was amazing.
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:That's the best of what
sports can give you, right?
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:So congratulations to whoever
realized that and gave us that
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:special moment because we've seen
leagues drop the ball like that, like.
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:PSP: Yeah.
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:A. Noel White:
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:The National Basketball Association
and not scheduling the Hawks or
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:the Memphis Grizzlies on MLK day.
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:We've seen oversights like that.
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:It's like, oh, oops.
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:But they did it right and looked
amazing, and I don't think that
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:MLB or Nike celebrates Hank
Aaron enough, to be honest.
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:So to see that moment was incredible.
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:Loved it.
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:Put it in the Louvre.
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:PSP: Hang it in the Louvre.
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:Yeah, I was, you know what, they should
hang in the Louvre, the image of Mrs.
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:Aaron observing the event.
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:It is almost like over a shoulder.
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:The seven 15 is in the background.
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:The lights.
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:The lights show.
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:That was special because I was fortunate
enough to read Terrence Moore's book
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:about Hank Karen, and that really gave
me an appreciation of the story, how
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:he , took the torch from Jackie Robinson
and plays a trail for of color in the
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:league, and not only doing that through
his voice, but doing that through.
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:His performances on the field of play.
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:The way that he held the bat, the way that
he ran the bases, he, just gonna make a
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:stand , with his voice, but he is also
gonna do , his performances to bring that
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:excellence to the field of play, to show
that people of color deserved a place
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:so yeah, I really appreciated what
they did on the on All Star Game Day.
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yes, that's exactly why it's
important and why I don't feel like
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:Hank Aaron is celebrated enough.
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:Because there is that great
moment of him breaking the record.
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:But there's all the stuff in the
background that Terence Warren mentions
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:in his book that makes that moment
that more poignant and that makes Mrs.
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:Aaron watching that recreation
of that moment that much poignant
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:because you see the sacrifices
they went through to get there.
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:It's not just the record,
it's everything behind it.
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:And so that's what makes that
moment so incredible in my opinion.
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:PSP: Absolutely.
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:Yeah.
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:It takes , a of work to be able to be
in the league for that long, to get to
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:firstly seven 14, and then to set the
record at the time , to do it without
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:any, , medical assistance if you will.
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:That's a record that
definitely is up there and.
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:I know Bonds has since broken that record.
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:He did it in his own right,
but he couldn't have done that
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:without Hank breaking down some
barriers to get there first.
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:So a great tribute by the
city of Atch when the MLB.
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:Now, if we go to the game itself,
it was quite entertaining.,
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:The National League took a lead nothing.
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:League came back That was quite a finish.
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:Six.
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:Six.
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:I thought we were done,
but apparently not.
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:There was some new content called a,
a Swing off, I've never heard of, but
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:essentially it's a, a home run derby in
the style of a soccer penalty shootout.
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:So each league put out representatives
that were gonna swing for as
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:many home runs as they could
with a set number of pitches.
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:And National League four.
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:The American League scored three.
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:I gotta ask, what are your
thoughts on that concept to,
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:finish an all-star game like that?
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:A. Noel White:
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:In an all star game.
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:I think it's kind of fun, right?
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:It's kinda like ending an NBA game, like
68, 68, and they're going, okay, gimme
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:your best dunkers, everybody dunk it out.
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:Right?
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:Everybody, you know, three pointed out,
it's, it's something kind of fun and,
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:quirky you can add at the end of the game
and like everybody likes home runs, right?
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:So isn't that a great way to end it?
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:The national in, in my opinion, you
couldn't have scripted the game any
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:better like the National League.
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:Takes a lead, which almost never happens.
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:They usually get beat up on by the al,
only for the, al the roar back and then
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:put us in this really never before scene.
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:Weird home run off as I'm calling it.
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:And I thought it was pretty fun actually.
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:I thought it was something I might
poo , or be down on, but when I actually
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:saw it in action, I was like, you know
what, this is actually pretty fun.
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:My only complaint not enough.
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:Ronald Koya.
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:PSP: Not enough.
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:Ronald Kuya?
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:Yes, it's his home.
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:Ballpark.
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:Yes.
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:I co-signed that because.
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:There are, there are a few
Atlantic connections over the week.
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:You had Mr.
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:Olson, the home run derby.
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:Freddy Freeman also came back with the
Dodgers, and he is a, a brave legend in
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:his is an all right part of the World
Series winning team a few years ago.
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:yeah, in terms of guys from the
present day team, not enough.
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:Ronald Kuya on the night and playing
in the National League ballpark, that
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:would've been on the cherry on top.
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:To have him play more of a role.
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:I know that it was won by Carl Ian,
which is a little bit awkward given
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:that he's a traditional rival.
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:But yeah,, you can never have too
much Ronald Koya, that's for sure.
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:A. Noel White:
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:Never, never.
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:Hopefully that was just a precautionary
choice on his point, why he pulled
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:himself out of the home run derby.
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:But still the hometown
team wanted to see more.
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:Number 13 out there running around
and hitting home runs and things.
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:But it was a, it was a great weekend.
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:I really enjoyed it.
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:I think Atlanta really set the stage
for them hosting another one, maybe,
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:you know, within the decade and
within the next eight to 10 years.
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:But we really put our best foot
forward and I think everybody
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:had a really great time.
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:PSP: Yeah, and I really think that
the, the ball club has set the bar
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:with the, the battery district and
the amenities around the stadium.
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:It really centralizes things in
a way, so it definitely puts.
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:Future hosts or future host candidates,
or notice that this is the way if
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:you want to host an All star game.
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:It's not about just setting up the
bases, making the grass look nice and
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:get the players out there to play ball.
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:You gotta have the events coming
correct from, Friday or Saturday,
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:right through the game on the Tuesday.
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:You gotta be ready to go and make
a real entertainment destination.
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:the baseball world when they come through.
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:Now I have a couple of
quick hitters for you.
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:Should the All-star game count?
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:'cause back in my day to sound like an
old man, the All-Star game counted for
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:Homefield Advantage in the World Series.
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:Should that be a thing?
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:Once more.
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:A. Noel White:
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:I think maybe until it all shakes itself
out, right, because this is the one time
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:the Nation League finally won the thing.
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:It could have got the home field
advantage and all that good stuff.
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:But no, I think it's best to just
keep it as a fun, expedition.
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:I don't think it really needs the
extra to get the guys up to play.
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:I think they're already ready
to go and kind of beat up on
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:each other in a, fun exposition.
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:I don't think it's like the NBA
where they kind of mail it in and
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:just just run around the court and.
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:Get their cardio up and just
play around with each other.
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:I think MLB has a more serious
competition where they can still find
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:the fun in it and don't have to be
coerced into actually playing the game.
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:So now we can take it off the table,
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:PSP: Yeah, fair enough.
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:I mean, were a handful of position
players that pulled out, I get it when
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:a pitcher can't play because their
previous start is too close to the.
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:All Star game.
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:Something like Max Free, for example,
a former Atlanta legend in himself.
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:But yeah, some of the
position players pulled out.
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:, Some may have some, injuries,
but there is a little bit came
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:to that NBA, laissez-faire.
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:, The big guns showed up.
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:So we liked that.
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:We definitely liked that.
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:Now, one more question I have for you.
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:I know that baseball is a bit more
international in the NBA, in the sense
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:that they have a World Baseball Classic.
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:Could you see an All-Star
game in the future?
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:That's a bit like the Hockey Four
Nations, where maybe you have versus
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:the Weld or some concept like that.
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:Do you see that could work for
the MLBs Midsummer Classic.
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:A. Noel White:
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:Ooh.
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:Yeah, I do think it can work
'cause we've seen hockey do it.
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:It got really exciting and we've
seen the NBA do it, but more like
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:with the rising stars, they've done
world versus America or NBA players
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:or however you wanna phrase that.
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:So I do think more sports
could lean into that because.
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:Sports are getting more international.
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:You have more American players
playing internationally.
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:You might have more international players
coming and taking over American markets.
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:I mean, look how much America
loves Shhe Tani, right?
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:We can't get enough ohtani
around here apparently.
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:So I think a game like that
could do, could do wonders.
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:PSP: Yeah, I, I love to see that,
although the National League, US American
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:League bringing back the uniforms that
they did, there is a romance to that.
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:So I do like to see
that each year as well.
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:I have no doubt that Rob
Manfred will work something out.
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:I think that's as a condition,
he's done a fine job of the game.
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:He's definitely tapped into
the international markets.
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:As I say, with Tani, you can
never have too much showtime.
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:It seems.
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:And with this All Star Week, he
definitely was able to get a few
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:concepts in there that drew more
eyes to the game than usual.
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:And yeah, as a commissioner, I think
he's done a pretty good job with the
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:commercialization and the marketability.
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:I just wish that he took away
the:
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:Anyway, before I get into a rant about
that, you're listening to PSP with
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:myself, Neil Willis, Bruce, and our guest.
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:White from 92 9, the game in Atlanta.
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:And Atlanta is the home of the dream who
are having reasonable season at the WNBA.
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:They had some lean seasons prior,
but:
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:They've had a couple of rookies come
in to help them, and they're now
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:heading into their own all-star break.
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:After the 16th of July, all the teams will
break up and selected players will go to.
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:Indianapolis, which seems to be the
center of the basketball universe
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:to play in the All Star Weekend is
also where the NBA finals are held.
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:It's home to one Kaitlyn Clark.
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:You may have heard of her.
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:Apparently she's pretty good
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yeah.
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:PSP: the perimeter, but yeah, in
Indianapolis is definitely isn't
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:living up to the sier state and
the the basketball stereotype.
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:Now, are you going to
Indianapolis for any chance?
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:A. Noel White:
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:No, I'm not gonna make it to Indianapolis.
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:I do know a reporter that
will be there when Megan L.
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:Hall, so we will probably try to
check in with her and get an update on
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:what's going on out in Indianapolis.
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:But your Alicia Gray and Ryan Howard
will be in Indianapolis though
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:Ryan will not play unfortunately.
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:PSP: Sadness.
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:Time you came on the show, you said she's
possibly one of the coolest in the league.
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:I, believe that I watched a
few games and , I believe that,
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:I think she's got some swag.
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:She's got some quiet and also overt
confidence about her, so it's a shame
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yeah.
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:PSP: her on the court.
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:Chloe Peterson, a reporter for
the Indie Star Indianapolis, is
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:reporting that Kaitlyn Clark is
day to day for All Star Weekend.
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:Can the WNBA survive
without Kaitlyn Clark?
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:Okay.
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:Wait, wait.
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:Can WNBA Twitter survive without Kaylene
Clark with All Star Break if for some
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:reason she's , unable to take part.
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:A. Noel White:
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:I love that caveat.
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:So as far as the WNBA.
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:Yeah, that'll be fine.
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:Caitlyn will be there.
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:I don't see her not being there, taking
up all type of, of camera ability, right?
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:So you'll get all the Kaitlyn
Clark in the world that she want.
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:It's kinda like those years when
like Shaq didn't play or maybe a, a
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:LeBron or KD was injured or whatever.
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:They're there, they're visible, but
they're just not gonna be on the floor.
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:And I think that's what you're
gonna see from Kaitlyn and Ryan.
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:As far as the Twitter is concerned, if
they understand that she's an, that she
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:has an injury and she's literally not
playing right now due to that injury,
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:then you know, maybe that will quell
some of the discourse by her not playing
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:because she physically literally can't,
it's not because nobody wants her to, or
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:anybody's trying to be mean or subjugate
her or any of those things, is that
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:she literally can't due to, I think,
she reaggravated a calf injury, so.
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:You got a few players that will be out.
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:She'll be one, but I think she will
be front row, center and visible.
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:I mean, 'cause she has
plenty of teammates I think.
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:Lexi Low, my favorite fever player,
Lexi Low Lexi Hall will be there.
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:And I think Aaliyah Boston will be there.
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:So she has teammates to cheer on as well.
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:PSP: Mm, and that sounded very rational.
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:Noel.
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:A. Noel White:
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:I know I'm way too rational.
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:PSP: I delved into WNBA Twitter and
they're not very rational when it
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:A. Noel White:
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:Ooh.
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:PSP: thing, so I, wish I had some
similar faith that such opinions will
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:be shared, that why she's injured.
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:But I can see some PPO stuff
coming up in the next couple
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:days about this, that, the other,
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:A. Noel White:
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:yeah,, it's gonna be interesting.
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:But her rookie counterpart will
be there also, angel Reese.
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:And that was why I bring that up because
that was somebody along with Ryan
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:Howard that I was kind of fearful was
gonna get lost in the shuffle of them.
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:Taking on new roles and responsibilities
this year, Ryan being more of a
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:leader and trying to share the
ball playing point guard a bit.
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:Angel Reese, picking up the point
guard mantle trying to down the
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:ball and run the floor a bit.
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:I think Angel Reese came on right on
time to get enough votes to be at All
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:Star and if you look at the past month
of play, it backs up her all star voting.
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:So I'm glad all of that
worked out for her.
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:I think that everything is just better
when her and Kaitlyn are around.
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:There's more eyes,
there's more conversation.
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:There's more care about
what's going on in the league.
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:So the two of them being there at the
same time, is, is better than one.
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:One is better than none, right?
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:So you'll have two of them there.
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:One on the court.
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:PSP: good.
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:And yeah, Reese has definitely been
on a tear in the lead up to the break.
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:She's, she isn't racking
up the double doubles.
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:She's really been putting in
the work in terms of getting the
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:points and getting the boards.
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:Is it possible that when it's all
said and done into the season that
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:Reese has maybe some MVP votes
from some of the, the voters?
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:A. Noel White:
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:Ooh, she have to continue this play
right here 'cause like two weeks ago.
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:I, I had Alicia Gray in
the MVP conversation.
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:She cooled off a bit,
heated back up today.
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:We'll see what an all star
brink will do for her.
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:But things are shifting now, to
your point, and if Angel Reese
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:can continue that play, I think
Naisia Collier is gonna win it.
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:But if you can be two or three two and
Necia Collier in year two of your career,
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:I mean, like , we're talking future
Hall of Famer, legend status stuff here.
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:PSP: Yeah, yeah, I hear that.
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:I, I have no doubt that Clark and
Reese will get into the Hall of Famer.
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:I think that when 2028 comes around,
they, they have to be on that team USA
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:list, at the very least, a short list.
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:They're gonna be in that conversation.
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:And as it stands, team USA is still
pretty hard to beat in, in world
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:basketball on the women's side.
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:So.
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:Yeah, I, I definitely see them
punching a ticket to, to Springfield
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:when it's all said and done.
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:The Naysmith Hall of Fame
named after a great Canadian,
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:A. Noel White:
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:Well look at.
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:PSP: great Canadian who actually put in
his work I believe they can, I believe,
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:A. Noel White:
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:We love it.
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:We love it.
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:PSP: the game using, buckets
or baskets for peaches.
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:So there we go.
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yes.
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:Baskets for peaches.
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:Yes, that is correct.
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:PSP: we go.
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:Canada connection.
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:You didn't know you needed,
but we got, and that's how we
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:got the game of basketball.
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:Now, the game of basketball
, and the WNBA has evolved.
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:It's definitely expanded exponentially
over the last couple of seasons.
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:Many will point to Caitlyn Clark and
of the other players that come through.
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:Angel Reese, Paige Beckers
is now on the scene.
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:I go to ask Noel.
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:Despite all this growth, are we still
gonna get a CBA done in time before
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:the deadline at the end of the year?
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:Or is 2026 gonna be a
potential lockout situation?
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:A. Noel White:
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:I think I might be the first media
person to go on record and say,
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:I think I see a lockout coming.
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:PSP: Hmm.
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:A. Noel White:
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:And for several reasons, there's
clearly contention between.
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:The head of the WNBA, you know, Kathy,
you got the players organization and the
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:players themselves, and there seems to be
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:they don't seem to be on the same
page about how to move forward
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:and who deserves what, and a CBA
lockout is nothing new, right?
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:We've seen baseball go through it,
we've seen football go through it.,
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:It's all about the players trying to
get what they feel like they're worth.
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:Out of the league and the league is
in a weird spot because, you know,
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:So it's kind of the worst time for
a CBA to come up, in my opinion.
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league time to get their footing together
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:before they can pivot and say, okay,
what does this mean for the players?
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:But it is what it is the CBA time.
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:And so these players, they see their
own profiles growing their own, their
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:Business is growing mean.
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:Angel Reese is a business
upon herself right now, right?
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:Like they're making so much
money outside of the sport.
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:Some of them are making more money
overseas, and they have to figure out
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:how to make the WNBA the place to play.
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:And that's gonna start with
how these women get paid.
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:PSP: Angel Reese is not a businesswoman.
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:A. Noel White:
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:That's exactly where she is, and that's
where Caitlyn is, and that's where Paige
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:Buckers is, and that's where the WNBA is.
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:And it's kind of in a, in a similar spot
to where the late eighties, early nineties
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:was where, you know, Michael Jordan wasn't
making the big NBA money, nobody was.
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:He was getting his money from Gatorade
and Nike and Hanes and on and on and on.
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:And that's kind of exactly
where these women are.
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:The league has to kind
of catch up with them.
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:I mean, Jordan's biggest NBA
paycheck first big NBA paycheck
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:came in like the, the 98 season.
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:He's pretty much done in
Chicago at that point.
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:He's had a whole career at that point
before he saw like a, a a million dollar
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:And that's kind of where the WR
right now, they're seeing, you know,
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:You know, you was getting two
quarter of a million dollar
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:checks from unrivaled, whoa.
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:That's a side job.
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:So what is your day job gonna pay you?
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:And that's what the
WNBA has to figure out.
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:And so I do think that that's heading
towards a lockout 'cause I don't think
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:that's an easy question to answer.
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:PSP: No doubt and.
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:I'm sure there'll be some
observations when it comes to TV.
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:Rights deals, broadcast deals.
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:I'm sure that will weigh into it as
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yep.
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:PSP: Apparently the players that
will be heading to Indianapolis
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:for the All Star Weekend, they will
be meeting with The Players Union.
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:There'll be a bit of a,
town hall on the situation.
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:So watch the space and see the
direction that comes outta that Noel,
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:what else should we be looking for?
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:This WMVA All Star weekend, , what
else is standing out to you?
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:A. Noel White:
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:Oh, we got the skills challenge,
the three point challenge.
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:I know people.
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:Probably disappointed that Kaitlyn
Clark will be subbed out, but what I
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:am looking to see is if Alicia Gray
can do the impossible and repeat
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:her performance from last season.
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:I think the 2024 All Star game gave
her a different level of visibility
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:and star power, to be honest.
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:I mean, I'm seeing kids walk around
with 15 jerseys and goggles now.
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:It's crazy.
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:And so if she can replicate, some
of that magic from last season,
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:bring it into this season and win.
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:You know, , she doesn't have to win both
this time, but if she can win one of
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:those competitions there and keep her
visibility that high on this big stage
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:of All Star Weekend, I think that would
do wonders for not just the League and
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:Alicia Gray, but for the Atlanta Dream.
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:You know, we're kind of a small
market in a small WNBA area.
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:If you think about it.
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:The only teams in the South
right now are the dream.
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:The wings.
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:That's it.
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:So we have , a lot of growing to do, to
be visible, to make people want to watch
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:Atlanta Dream basketball and players
like Alicia Gray and Ryan Howard and Ena
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:Pow Pow will go a long way towards that.
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:And I'm hoping Alicia Gray
continues that this weekend in
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:PSP: Well, I'm gonna
correct you there, Noelle.
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:'cause Atlanta's not a small
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:A. Noel White:
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:Okay.
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:PSP: LAN's a big market.
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:A. Noel White:
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:I agree with you.
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:I agree with you.,
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:I think, you know, sometimes I try to
fall into where people see Atlanta,
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:but you're right, Atlanta's a top
seven sports market in the world.,
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:It's not a small market at
all, but can we get these eyes?
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that's what we're working on right now.
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:Getting more eyes on jerseys that say
Atlanta on the front and not so much, you
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:know, New York, golden State, la that's,
that's what we're trying to do right now.
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:We're trying to turn a big
market into our big market.
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:PSP: I, I hear what you're saying 'cause
there's some similarities with Toronto.
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:Toronto's being the largest
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:A. Noel White:
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:Mm-hmm.
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:PSP: one of the most popular
cities in North America.
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:But yeah, at times the sports teams,
it feels like they're, they have a
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:small market mentality and you quite
often see rival jerseys in such a
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:big city when I feel like we should
be seeing more of the local teams.
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:Anyway, we can get into
that another day, but.
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:A sport we might see more
of in Atlanta is hockey.
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:Before I get you out of here, Noel, you
may have seen some reports that there
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:could be another return of the NHL to add
what your thoughts on that, just quickly.
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:A. Noel White:
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:So right when I decided I was gonna get
into the Thrashers, I went to my first
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:game and a week later they sold the team.
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:PSP: Okay.
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:A. Noel White:
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:So this is my chance to finally
get into Atlanta hockey.
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:I wasn't old enough for the flame
the Thrashers were taking from me
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:before I could really get into them.
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:So this is the second
chance to relive that.
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:And it's funny you asked me that because
I'm working on a project right now for
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:grad school about how Ted Turner's merger
with Time Warner ruined Atlanta sports.
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:And that's a big piece of it.
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:We lost the Thrashers.
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:PSP: Wait, wait, wait.
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:See, I was about to wrap things up
and now you've opened something up.
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:'cause Ted Turner, he owned the Thrashes.
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:He also owned the Braves, is that right?
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:A. Noel White:
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:He on the Thrashers, the Braves,
the Hawks, and technically WCW.
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:PSP: Yes.
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:WCWI remember that.
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:'cause I mean, you
could say that he tanked
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:A. Noel White:
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:Yeah.
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:PSP: right?
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:A. Noel White:
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:Well, not necessarily.
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:Well, okay.
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:And we can talk about
that mess another day.
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:But ultimately the merger with
Time Warner ruined Atlanta Sports.
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:'cause they didn't want
any of the sports teams.
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:He had to add the sports teams to
make the money work, but Time Warner
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:didn't care about the sports teams.
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:And so they got sold off to
other individuals that didn't
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:They just cared about the
revenue from the team.
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:And I feel like a lot of, a lot
of those teams are still trying to
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:get their footing from that sale.
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:From almost 25 years ago.
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:So all of that said, I am super excited
to maybe have the Thrashers back or
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:some other team if we don't get to
have our own intellectual property.
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:I don't even know how that works yet.
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:Super excited about the idea
of hockey back in Atlanta.
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:PSP: Great.
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:Well, that's good,
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:A. Noel White:
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:I.
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:PSP: Because yeah,, we always wonder up
in Canada if, folks in the Really are
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:into hockey because there's many other
sports, there's outdoor activities,
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:so that's just refreshing to hear.
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:If you ever wanted , another example of
a conglomerate owning sports teams, you
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:can look no further than Toronto because
has just acquired Maple Leaf Sports.
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:So Ed Rogers now owns the Blue Jays, the
Maple Leaf, the Raptors, and Toronto Sea.
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:So your case study could be prophetic.
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:I have my concerns.
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:We can talk about that another day.
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:A. Noel White:
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:We, we really could actually,
it's actually a really good topic.
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:PSP: he just closed the sale.
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:Around Canada Day, actually July 1st.
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:So just for your long weekend,
yeah, you're gonna wanna
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:read up on that for sure.
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:But in the meantime, well where, where
can we read up and listen to your work?
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:A. Noel White:
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:Well, me and your soccer pal, Jason
Longshore, they have given us an
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:hour of radio for whatever reason
on Thursday nights at:
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:can hear that on the Odyssey app
or anywhere you get your podcast.
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:You can find us in the
Sam and Greg folder.
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:We will be labeled Intersection
where me and Jason break
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:down all headlines going on.
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:All the fun stuff around us and we
throw darts at people at the bar.
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:So yes, join us at the corner of sports
and everything else at:
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:Thursday nights on 9 2 9, the game.
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:PSP: Fantastic.
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:And yeah, the, the out there,
they do fine work in the sports
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:capital of the southeast.
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:You're gonna wanna check that out and.
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:Into all that good stuff.
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:the meantime, I've been your
host, Neil Wallace Bruce, and
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:this is another episode of PSP.